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Tag: Osama bin Laden

fool me twice... oh why not, fool me three times

Mon Aug 18, 2008 at 07:06:21 PM PDT

in line behind three generations of women - from 10 years old, to maybe late 50s - carefully examining the menu at popeye's fried chicken a couple of months ago, i was somewhat taken aback by their question to the guy behind the counter.
"is the catfish fillet sandwich... is it made with cat, or fish, or is it cat & fish mixed together?"
okay, not the smartest people maybe. they did exhibit a curiosity apparently lacking in the press these days & the audacity to at least ask what it was they might be purchasing.

McCain, Bin Laden and the Gates of Hell

Mon Aug 18, 2008 at 05:19:20 PM PDT

Richard Nixon claimed to have a secret plan to end the war in Vietnam.  Of course, once he was elected, his secret plan was to escalate the war.  Senator McCain has taken a page from Nixon's playbook.  Last Saturday, he hinted at a secret plan to capture Osama Bin Laden.

What Obama needs to learn from McCain re Rick Warren

Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 08:55:12 PM PDT

    Actually, McC could learn a lot from Obama (e.g., having the right positions), but McC was punchy, succinct, and made the campaign sound epic, e.g., fighting The Terrorists Everywhere, etc., in Rick Warren's Saddleback Civil Forum tonight.

A. Obama needs to say things succinctly, and be less Kerryesque.

B. He needs to sound punchier and more aggressive. Why didn't he say anything about getting Osama?

C. Stories. He talked about his ancestors who fought in WWII, but he--or a running mate--could sure use some personal stories with the "I was in a Hanoi hellhole for my beloved country" tang that McCain exhibited.

    I'm voting Obama; but not enough other people may do so unless he ramps up his speech and debate style. Forewarned is forearmed.

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Jerome Corsi Works For John McCain

Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 06:56:23 PM PDT

and here's the evidence.

http://www.google.com/...

Jerome Corsi is a lying scumbag who is paid by the McCain campaign and Corsi was paid by TraitoRove and Bush for the sleaze boat attacks in 2004.

In the "War on Terror," Looking for the "Right Front" Makes Diplomacy Take a Back Seat

Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 06:17:01 AM PDT

In her recent AlterNet column, Iliana Segura gets a lot right:

If the United States really wants to improve the situation in Afghanistan, it should start by ending the occupation. It should then cough up money for humanitarian aid and reconstruction. (One estimate puts the tab at $10 billion.) This is not just for the sake of Afghanistan, but for the sake of Americans as well, who are no safer today than they were when the planes hit the towers. Ending the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan is the first, crucial step in that elusive goal of "winning hearts and minds" that the United States claims to be so committed to in the region. As Iraq has demonstrated, occupying armies are not a deterrent to terrorism. Occupying armies breed terror.

The Subtle Attacks

Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 12:34:21 AM PDT

Everyone knows that political attack machines (more specifically Republican attack machines, since they seem to be doing the most attacking these days) can be found on an extremely small scale. My hometown newspaper, the Rockford (IL) Register-Star, published a letter to the editor from a man from Polo, Illinois, who stated that we should "fear Barack Obama" more than Osama bin Laden. My response to the letter was generally panned by my friends and even a special writer to the publication, who said that he "was appalled that he played the race card when there was no reference to race in Mr. Gribbins letter whatsoever".

Bin Laden and the Driver

Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 05:37:58 AM PDT

August 6, 2008. An undisclosed location. It was 7 years ago that the President was handed a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in the U. S." (click here for CNN) And Six Years, 11 Months, and 5 Days ago, on September 11, 2001, he struck.

Bin Laden is still at large - but we got his driver - sentenced the bastard to 5 and a half years. The Taliban, which gave bin Laden his base of operations, is growing stronger. After going after bin Laden for a while, we cornered bin Laden in Tora Bora, paid some Taliban fighters to 'take him out.' They took him out, to lunch, to a nice bistro not far from the fighting.

Ivan, please come in.

Sat Aug 09, 2008 at 12:54:05 AM PDT

Hello, Ivan, my old freind, I've come to speak with you again.

I hope this message finds you well. How are things?

It's been so long since we have spoken. I miss you.

So They Nabbed The Driver, But Where is OBL?

Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 08:08:39 PM PDT

With less than six months remaining before leaving the White House, the Bush administration, desperate to show it had made inroads into Osama Bin Laden's terrorist network has decided to take a gamble by trying Salim Hamdan.

Hamdan, however, was nothing more than a chauffeur, paid to drive Osama Bin Laden.

In Praise of George W Bush

Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 10:21:22 AM PDT

The DailyKos seems to me to be to overly critical of our President.  Below the fold I wish to discuss the positive things that the Bush Administration has accomplished.

August 6, 2001 - We Will Never Forget

Wed Aug 06, 2008 at 06:01:43 PM PDT

You may remember my brother the activist.  I keep trying to get him to post, but he's shy and busy.  He sent me this yesterday and I thought I'd share it with you.- ek

Seven Years Later

Wed Aug 06, 2008 at 04:35:30 PM PDT

What better way to celebrate the 7th anniversary of Ignored "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in the US" PDB Day than with a conviction in a sham show trial?

Yup, it's been seven years since that infamous daily briefing at the Crawford pig farm ranch, an event which Bush marked by taking the rest of the month off.

The day after he received the memo, "Bush seemed carefree as he spoke about the books he was reading, the work he was doing on his nearby ranch, his love of hot-weather jogging, his golf game and his 55th birthday," the Washington Post noted. Today — 2,557 days later — Bin Laden still remains free and "determined to strike in U.S."

But they got his driver. Sort of.

After closing arguments Monday, Charles D. Swift, a former Navy lawyer who has represented Mr. Hamdan for years, said the two-week proceeding here had been a trial that did not follow the American rule of law and that the defense believed American courts would eventually correct the legal errors here. Mr. Swift called the military commission "a made-up tribunal to try anybody we don’t like."

The not-guilty verdict on the conspiracy charge was a setback for the military prosecutors. The charge had asserted that Mr. Hamdan joined in the conspiracy that included the 2001 and other major terror attacks by helping transport and protect Mr. bin Laden....

Michael J. Berrigan, the deputy chief defense counsel for Guantánamo, said the defense was encouraged by the verdict. "For a team that was expected to strike out at every pitch," he said, "we at least hit a triple."

He described the conspiracy charge that was rejected by the panel as the government’s main charge, and noted that when Mr. Hamdan was originally charged in 2003 the only charge he faced was conspiracy.

So, while they don't have bin Laden, and have no convinctions of anyone involved in that conspiracy, they've got Hamdan on "material support." And, as the Center for Constitutional Rights, which has led the legal battle over Guantanamo for the last six years, points out they've sealed the undermining of long-standing traditions of jurisprudence:

"Hamdan’s trial violated two of the most fundamental criminal justice principles accepted by all developed nations:  the prohibition on the use of coerced evidence and the prohibition on retroactive criminal laws.

The trial will not create finality – the decision to keep these cases out of the ordinary criminal courts will produce years of appeals over novel legal issues raised by the untested military commissions system. Even after those appeals are finished, the process will never be seen as legitimate by the world.  This case was the first trial run of the commissions system, and the decision proves nothing except that the system itself should be scrapped. Terrorism-related crimes should be tried in the time-tested domestic criminal justice system, a system whose rules have been designed over the centuries with one goal: to seek out the truth."

While those years of appeals proceed, the Pentagon intends to detain all of the defendents forever, anyway, even those who are acquitted. As if that will keep the world from noticing that bin Laden is still at large and the "War on Terror" has been a complete debacle.

McCain's Connection To West Nile Virus Outbreak?

Wed Aug 06, 2008 at 12:35:56 PM PDT

Yes, there is a connection.  

Reports are coming in from across the country that cases of West Nile Virus have increased.

From MSNBC.com:

CONCORD, Calif. - Standing on the edge of a swimming pool gone bad, public health worker Jeremy Tamargo scoops up a sample of murky, brown water to make sure the mosquito treatment he administered earlier is still working.

A collection of plastic toys stashed in a corner of the yard and a stuffed toy floating forlornly in the swampy water indicate a family once played here, until foreclosure forced a move.

Now the once-sparkling, turquoise jewel is a "green pool," a legacy of the foreclosure crisis — and a breeding ground for millions of potentially disease-carrying mosquitoes that have kept health officials busy in California and elsewhere.

More below the fold....

Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.

Wed Aug 06, 2008 at 06:56:39 AM PDT

[ed note:  I posted this last year and am doing so again because callous negligence is hard to forgive]

August 6, 2001

Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate bin Laden since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US. Bin Laden implied in U.S. television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bring the fighting to America."

After U.S. missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a -- -- service.

An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative told - - service at the same time that bin Laden was planning to exploit the operative's access to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike.

The millennium plotting in Canada in 1999 may have been part of bin Laden's first serious attempt to implement a terrorist strike in the U.S.

Bin Laden, US Contractors and a Plan to Bridge the Red Sea

Sun Aug 03, 2008 at 11:12:42 PM PDT

One of the reasons I subscribe to The Economist is for the little stories...this one blew me away.  Apparently, there is a serious plan being put together by the brother of Osama to work with a US contractor to build a bridge a series of cities between Djibouti and Yemen.  The issue isn't so much what they plan, but who is involved and the questions this raises...

BTW, I originally posted this Sunday morning in the wee hours when it was incomplete.  The 17 comments I surprisingly received were very helpful, and I thank those who took the time to offer their thoughtful opinions.

WTF! Bin Laden, US Contractors and a Plan to Bridge the Red Sea

Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 11:34:03 PM PDT

One of the reasons I subscribe to The Economist is for the little stories...this one blew me away.  Apparently, there is a serious plan being put together by the brother of Osama to work with a US contractor to build a bridge a series of cities between Djibouti and Yemen.  The issue isn't so much what they plan, but who is involved and the questions this raises...

BTW, I originally posted this Sunday morning in the wee hours when it was incomplete.  The 17 comments I surprisingly received were very helpful, and I thank those who took the time to offer their thoughtful opinions.

The Audacity of McCain's Secret Plan to Get Osama?

Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 10:35:56 AM PDT

Yesterday John McCain told Wolf Blitzer that when he is President he will capture Osama Bin Laden. He based that rather bold promise on his self-described expertise as a military strategist and tactician - who he says knows "how to win wars."

Unfortunately - McCain says he won't tell anyone - apparently including President Bush - how to do the job now.

Wow!

If Obama said he had a "secret plan" to capture Osama bin Laden, do you think the mainstream media would let him skate?

Don't ya think the mainstream media should be jumping all over McCain's rather audacious statements? Or not??!!

It's almost Republican "Ignore bin Laden" Day!!

Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 06:19:25 AM PDT

At 1730 hours Zulu (1.30pm EDT) on August 20, 1998, acting on what Madeline Albright called "some excellent intelligence work", al-Qaeda locations were hit in an attempt to take out the mastermind of the August 7 Embassy bombings, Osama bin Laden. Two massive bombs detonated at US embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam, killing 12 Americans and hundreds of Kenyans and Tanzanians... and we struck back.

The Republican response to Operation Infinite Reach may surprise you.



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